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by VoGo
20 Jul 2026, 10:03
Forum: SPE
Topic: Which industries would see the most breakthrough for SPE and APL?
Replies: 1
Views: 6

Re: Which industries would see the most breakthrough for SPE and APL?

Webinar_Question wrote: 20 Jul 2026, 09:26 Which industries would see the most breakthrough for SPE and APL?
Food and Beverage, Water processing and other critical infrastructure applications, buildings, transportation, factory automation
by VoGo
20 Jul 2026, 10:03
Forum: SPE
Topic: Can you use multiple connectors on one SPE line? Or will those connectors disrupt the signal?
Replies: 1
Views: 6

Re: Can you use multiple connectors on one SPE line? Or will those connectors disrupt the signal?


Can you use multiple connectors on one SPE line? Or will those connectors disrupt the signal?


APL and SPE in general are still switched ethernet networks and point-to-point connections - one connector at each end of the wire only.

The 10BASET1S standard, that we did not cover here, allows ...
by VoGo
20 Jul 2026, 10:02
Forum: SPE
Topic: Is there a plan to downsize the PROFINET stack to use low power CPUs in SPE devices?
Replies: 1
Views: 6

Re: Is there a plan to downsize the PROFINET stack to use low power CPUs in SPE devices?


Is there a plan to downsize the PROFINET stack to use low power CPUs in SPE devices?


It is a proven technology, PROFINET can be implemented on a low power MCU. There are certain system features that do not apply to a single port device that make the implementation lighter - no IRT, no MRP ...
by VoGo
20 Jul 2026, 10:01
Forum: SPE
Topic: So the line topology (2-port devices) is not possible for SPE(with Power), right?
Replies: 1
Views: 6

Re: So the line topology (2-port devices) is not possible for SPE(with Power), right?


So the line topology (2-port devices) is not possible for SPE(with Power), right?


It is possible, but with power you need a power forwarding mechanism and that makes the design a bit more complex. If you go data only, you can do line topology for sure. Specifically with the upcoming 100BASE-T1L ...
by VoGo
20 Jul 2026, 09:58
Forum: SPE
Topic: Shall SPE-Port (and APL) be tested as a "wired network port" during the emission test or as a "DC power-port"?
Replies: 1
Views: 6

Re: Shall SPE-Port (and APL) be tested as a "wired network port" during the emission test or as a "DC power-port"?


Shall SPE-Port (and APL) be tested as a "wired network port" during the emission test or as a "DC power-port"?


I asked an expert on the issue and here is what we wrote: "I believe the question is about whether the APL port should be considered a DC supply port or a data port for the purposes of ...
by VoGo
20 Jul 2026, 09:56
Forum: SPE
Topic: Is it planned to upgrade the speed to 100 Mbit ?
Replies: 1
Views: 6

Re: Is it planned to upgrade the speed to 100 Mbit ?


Is it planned to upgrade the speed to 100 Mbit ?


Yes. The 100BASE-T1L standard is in the process to be published. Profinet will support this standard as soon as physical implementations are available and the certification supports 100BASE-T1L.
Right now the support for 100BASE-T1L is worked ...
by VoGo
20 Jul 2026, 09:54
Forum: SPE
Topic: I have heard the acronym PoDL together with SPE. What is the difference betwen SPoE and PoDL?
Replies: 1
Views: 6

Re: I have heard the acronym PoDL together with SPE. What is the difference betwen SPoE and PoDL?

Webinar_Question wrote: 20 Jul 2026, 09:29 I have heard the acronym PoDL together with SPE. What is the difference betwen SPoE and PoDL?
SPoE is the use case, PoDL is the technology that makes it work. In PN we refer to the use case and that is SPoE.
by VoGo
20 Jul 2026, 09:53
Forum: SPE
Topic: Are really available on the market profinet devices based on SPE or SPoE?
Replies: 1
Views: 7

Re: Are really available on the market profinet devices based on SPE or SPoE?

Webinar_Question wrote: 20 Jul 2026, 09:29 Are really available on the market profinet devices based on SPE or SPoE?
Currently non, because certification will not start before end 2026
by VoGo
20 Jul 2026, 09:52
Forum: SPE
Topic: Which connector manufacturer is providing this new IEC 63171-7 standard connector portfolio?
Replies: 1
Views: 10

Re: Which connector manufacturer is providing this new IEC 63171-7 standard connector portfolio?

Webinar_Question wrote: 20 Jul 2026, 09:30 Which connector manufacturer is providing this new IEC 63171-7 standard connector portfolio?
Connectors are available from all major connector manufacturers - at least as samples
by VoGo
20 Jul 2026, 09:51
Forum: APL
Topic: Will PROFINET APL and PROFIsafe work together in SIS?
Replies: 1
Views: 8

Re: Will PROFINET APL and PROFIsafe work together in SIS?

Webinar_Question wrote: 20 Jul 2026, 09:31 Will PROFINET APL and PROFIsafe work together in SIS?
PROFIsafe implementations on APL devices are in the works from different vendors.
by VoGo
20 Jul 2026, 09:50
Forum: APL
Topic: Doesn't the APL switch need some type of power in the Intrinsic Safe side?
Replies: 1
Views: 9

Re: Doesn't the APL switch need some type of power in the Intrinsic Safe side?

Webinar_Question wrote: 20 Jul 2026, 09:32 Doesn't the APL switch need some type of power in the Intrinsic Safe side?
APL switch can be powered locally or remotely using the trunk/spur topology.
by VoGo
09 Sep 2024, 16:11
Forum: APL
Topic: Moving from 4 wire to APL
Replies: 1
Views: 87018

Re: Moving from 4 wire to APL


Other than the change in physical interface are there any other differences between a 4 wire Ethernet Profinet device and an APL Profinet device? I've not seen anything written down outlining a migration path.


Well, there are some restrictions on the device that influence the device design. The ...
by VoGo
09 Sep 2024, 13:44
Forum: PROFIprocess
Topic: APL equipment for a complete "newby" for APL device development
Replies: 2
Views: 112139

Re: APL equipment for a complete "newby" for APL device development


Hello PROFIprocess and APL experts.

One of my field device makers customers has a lot of experience in process field devices, but so far has not developed PROFIBUS DP, PROFIBUS PA, PROFINET and let alone APL. I can't say more about this company because of obvious confidentiality considerations ...
by VoGo
29 Jul 2024, 15:26
Forum: APL
Topic: Conformance tests
Replies: 1
Views: 88965

Re: Conformance tests


How are the conformance test for certification on data and power applicable to other systems than the UNH test system mentioned in the official specifications?


The Physical layer test for APL needs to be tested per hardware platform. The standardization organizations (PI, ODVA, FieldComms ...
by VoGo
29 Jul 2024, 12:01
Forum: APL
Topic: Switches with high port counts
Replies: 1
Views: 88631

Re: Switches with high port counts


How is it possible to build switches with high port counts. So far I see 1- or 2-ports PHYs. Switch-IC with 10Mbit/s support are very rar. Do you have any advice on how to realise APl switches with high port numbers?


For a high port count switch a switch IC with RMII or RGMII ports is required ...
by VoGo
29 Jul 2024, 12:00
Forum: APL
Topic: Evolution kit
Replies: 1
Views: 89298

Re: Evolution kit

Webinar_Question wrote: 29 Jul 2024, 11:46 Which evolution kit / HW you will prefer to do the PoC?
Well, of course I would prefer one from Analog Devices😉, the company I work for. But all players in this market have some very good evaluation kits available.

Pls contact your local sales representative.
by VoGo
29 Jul 2024, 11:58
Forum: APL
Topic: Cybersecurity
Replies: 1
Views: 90826

Re: Cybersecurity


With APL being ethernet based, do you think customers will be more concerned about cybersecurity? What is the status of PROFINET and cybersecurity?


Yes, customers will be more concerned. However, security will be a big issue with every connectivity going forward and to get it right is far ...
by VoGo
22 Jul 2024, 10:59
Forum: APL
Topic: APL companies
Replies: 1
Views: 87677

Re: APL companies

Webinar_Question wrote: 22 Jul 2024, 08:19 Are there many companies that develop APL devices?
Yes. Just two weeks ago, at ACHEMA trade show, there were a lot of talks about APL and a lot of devices were shown and even more announced. And not only in Europe, but APL is also attractive world-wide.
by VoGo
22 Jul 2024, 10:57
Forum: APL
Topic: APL wires
Replies: 1
Views: 86807

Re: APL wires


I see APL needs 2 wire, provide the signal and power, but I see M8 or M12 is 4 poles, why?


M8 and M12 are robust, proven and available connector technologies for robust environments. The field engineers know how to assemble them, they are common and rock solid. The popular alternative is to use ...
by VoGo
22 Jul 2024, 10:56
Forum: APL
Topic: Netload Class
Replies: 1
Views: 88238

Re: Netload Class

Webinar_Question wrote: 22 Jul 2024, 08:20 Which netload class is mandatory for APL devices i.e. category netload class 1 or 2?
A new netload class was introduced, class2@10Mbit. This class applies to APL and 10MBit/s SPE (non-intrinsic safe applications).
by VoGo
15 Jul 2024, 11:18
Forum: APL
Topic: Trouble shoot
Replies: 1
Views: 87227

Re: Trouble shoot

Webinar_Question wrote: 15 Jul 2024, 11:08 Are there any dedicated tools to trouble shoot APL cables?
There are tools under development by different players. Also, the APL bridges can help big way with cable diagnostics. A good cable diagnostic in a switch can also be used as cable test tool to some extent.
by VoGo
15 Jul 2024, 11:16
Forum: APL
Topic: Minimum cycle time
Replies: 1
Views: 86438

Re: Minimum cycle time


Is the 8ms minimum cycle time just an example or is it a "must-be" for any device?


8ms is the fastest cycle time Profinet allows in a 10Mbit/s segment. That is where the 8ms come from. You do not need to support 8ms if your device does not need it. However, as a CLASS B device it has to support ...
by VoGo
15 Jul 2024, 11:15
Forum: APL
Topic: Communication delivered power class
Replies: 1
Views: 86988

Re: Communication delivered power class


Is there a communication between the field device and the APL switch about the delivered power class? Similiar to normal PoE Chips?


Not in APL. In contrast to general SPE, APL uses engineered power. Therefore, the switch is configured to provide power statically. This approach was chosen to ...
by VoGo
10 Jul 2024, 13:17
Forum: APL
Topic: Galvanic Isolation on the Data lines
Replies: 1
Views: 86981

Re: Galvanic Isolation on the Data lines


Does APL need a galvanic Isolation on the Data lines and within the power circuitry? E.g. with Isolation Transformers like in standard (PoE) Ethernet Solutions?

APL uses inductors– common mode chocks and to couple the DC supply off the APL cable. The data is coupled of the cable using capacitors ...
by VoGo
10 Jul 2024, 13:16
Forum: APL
Topic: PA in APL-Profinet stack
Replies: 1
Views: 87490

Re: PA in APL-Profinet stack


Will PA be involved in APL-Profinet stack ? The APL device can be used as PN or PA?

The way I read the question is “Is Profibus PA involved in the APL stack and can a single device support both, Profibus PA and Profinet APL.
No, you either design a Profibus PA device or you design a Profinet APL ...
by VoGo
10 Jul 2024, 13:15
Forum: APL
Topic: APL conductors
Replies: 1
Views: 87082

Re: APL conductors


Is the coloring of the APL conductors mandatory?

Coloring of the connectors is not required. The only requirement is to leave light blue exclusive to cables in intrinsic safe connections.
It is a good habit to mark terminals with “+”, “-“, “ground”, even so APL is polarity agnostic. Look at it ...
by VoGo
18 Jan 2024, 16:17
Forum: APL
Topic: PI certification for APL
Replies: 4
Views: 99768

Re: PI certification for APL


Which areas are covered by PI certification testing for APL?

Prerequisite is the APL Physical Layer test to make sure the requirements for intrinsic safety are matched. This test is available at different organizations. The cool part is that if you passed this test with either Profinet, ODVA or ...
by VoGo
18 Jan 2024, 16:02
Forum: APL
Topic: PI certification for APL
Replies: 4
Views: 99768

Re: PI certification for APL


Is the Ethernet APL test a prerequisite for PROFINET certification of APL devices?


To clarify - with "APL-Certification" you refer to the APL PHYSICAL LAYER Certification?!
Yes, this test is a prerequisite. The APL Physical Layer tests are designed to make sure your implementation is aligned ...