Many developers may wonder if these workshops are worth their time and investment, or if they are just a way for companies to promote their products and services under the guise of educational events. Hello! The presentation of our sponsors in the webinar itself only makes up a very small part (jus...

Webinar_Question wrote: ↑23 Jul 2024, 13:06 Will it be possible to buy all the needed hardware as a bundle?
And if, what is the price?

No, there is no offer for such a bundle.

Webinar_Question wrote: ↑23 Jul 2024, 13:13 If I use a microchip with a certified PROFINET stack to develop my new device, do I need to get the certification as well or is not necessary in this case?

In any case a pre-certified solution is used, the final product needs to be certified again.

Certification is mandatory before a device can be offered for sale. What is meant with “device”? Does the term “device” include both IOC and IOD? The PROFINET certification is mandatory for Devices and Controller. Please have a look at https://www.profibus.com/download/how-to-get-a-certificate-for-...

Is the version of the ETS board always the same, or does it change? Is a new version planned? We provide with every test bundle a new ETS FW which has to be used on the ETS. Please consider its update with every new bundle version. There is no plan to change the HW version of the ETS. But in genera...

Which configuration of a device is used for the certification test if the DUT is capable of many different modules/submodules? Is it always the default configuration? The configuration is chosen by the test lab in case of virtual submodules. In case of hardware modules, it is decided together with ...

Can the ART Tester handle only the latest GSDML file version, or is it downward compatible? The ART can handle the three latest GSDML and PNIO versions. In case of PROFIsafe devices it is possible to import a GSDML with version V2.32 and newer having PROFIsafe submodules inside. So, for devices wit...

Webinar_Question wrote: ↑23 Jul 2024, 13:25 Can an existing GSD V2.42 be extended to include a new device as of June / July 2024?

In June/July 2024 the PROFINET Test Bundle 2.44 is still valid and thus can be used to certify devices based on GSDML V2.42 and PNIO_version V2.42.

Webinar_Question wrote: ↑23 Jul 2024, 13:26 If a PROFINET device is only produced for one manufacturer, does it still have to be certified?
And if so, who has to commission the certification?

Every device, which is sold to end customer needs to be certified. The vendor needs to take care about this.

Webinar_Question wrote: ↑23 Jul 2024, 13:27 To certify a PROFINET controller a file (comparable to the GSD file) is needed. Where do I get this file from?

The CDML needs to be created by the controller vendor itself. An example CDML and comprehensive documentation is included in the Test Bundle.

Do I need to wait for PROFINET Test Bundle Version 2.45 to use the ETS for precertification (because of not full migrated yet)? No, starting with version 2.44, ETS is part of the official certification, because the device test cases were already migrated. With the upcoming version 2.45 bundle even ...

Can you please provide more information on the status and future plans for PROFIdrive / Encoder Profile Tester? Are there plans to use ETS for the related tests? In this context: Which S7 PLC exactly replaces (or in future shall replace) the CP1616? Is it S7-1516? The future strategy is to replace ...

Is it possible to use the CP1616 with the upcoming PROFIdrive Profile Tester 6 or is it completely replaced? The future strategy is to replace the CP1616 completely because modern computers do not offer a PCI slot anymore. Profile Tester Version 6, planned to be used for official certification with...

Does PI have some PROFINET diagnostics guidelines for diagnostic purpose of PROFINET network? There is a Diagnosis Guideline available on https://www.profibus.com/download/diagnosis-for-profinet-guideline. All relevant guidelines are also part of the PROFINET Test Bundle https://de.profibus.com/dow...

Webinar_Question wrote: ↑23 Jul 2024, 11:28 Is it planned to release a Linux-compatible version of the Automated RT Tester?

No, this is not planned. The Automated RT Tester will stay on Windows. All time critical tests run on the ETS, which is based on Linux.

We have a controller, which also supports the device functionality as an I-Device. Will the I-Device get a separate certificate, or will it be integrated in the controller certificate? The I-Device will be tested separately, like a “normal” device and will get a PROFINET Device Certificate after pa...

Which features do virtual instances (controller and devices) need to support within PROFINET certification? Starting with Test Bundle V2.45.0 in August 2025 it will be possible to certify also virtual Controller and Devices. In a first step, the virtual instance must support everything according to...

PROFIuli wrote: ↑11 Jun 2024, 11:10 Hello,
I am looking for a document describing the rules for labeling LEDs and ports.
Can someone help?
Best regards,
Uli

Hello,
I am not aware of such a document or any document giving suggestions. The labeling isn't checked by the test laboratory. It should be self-explaining.
Best regards,
Raik

I’m facing problems with my device identity. Trying to adapt my drive device to start with the VIK-NAMUR drive profile GSDM I always get device mismatch error from the controller and connection establishment is not successful. I adapted my DAP to Device-ID and Vendor-ID mentioned in the VIK-NAMUR G...

What is a GSDX file and what is the difference to a GSDML file ? A GSDX is a container (like docx) based on ISO/IEC 29500-2:2021 containing one or more GSDML files, attachments and an optional digital signature. The digitial signature gets mandatory using GSDX in context of Security Class 1 ensurin...

Is there a PC-based Profinet master simulator available, or is it preferable to use an HW CPU for this purpose ?​ Testing your device with a real PLC is one important part of the system test. But in an early development phase this could be hard, as crucial parts in the firmware could be missing. So...

Nil_B wrote: ↑10 Oct 2023, 11:34 Thank you. One additional question:
What are the drawbacks or constraints of using a software-based Profinet solution ?​

You are welcome.
Drawbacks are:
- no IRT communication is possible
- additional switch/PHY is required

What does the scope of a certification test entail at the official PI test lab ?​ The scope is based on the features your device supports according to its GSDML file. Depending on the conformance class the mandatory features needs to be checked. In case of supporting optional features, these are te...

Cutter12 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2023, 12:37 What is the price for certification testing in the PI lab ?​

The PI Test Labs have their individual price list. So you have to get in contact with them.
https://www.profibus.com/pi-organizatio ... test-labs/

What is the cost associated with obtaining a Profinet certificate ?​ There are fees for the test at the PI Test Labs, which all have their individual price list. So you have to get in contact with them. https://www.profibus.com/pi-organization/institutions-support/test-labs/ In addition, fees for i...

wolf_72 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2023, 12:40 Which Profidrive application classes can operate without requiring Profinet IRT ?​

The application classes (AC) 1, 2 and 3 can be operated without IRT.

Nil_B wrote: ↑02 Oct 2023, 13:02 What are the available solutions for adding Profinet connectivity ?​

- Software solution with standard microcontroller
- ASIC solution
- FPGA solution
- communication modules

For further information please have a look on: https://www.profibus.com/technology/pro ... ementation

What sets apart ASIC and FPGA Profinet solutions from each other ? In contrast to the ASIC, the FPGA is more flexible because - its function can be changed by the developer - own functionalities can be incorporated in addition to the PROFINET function The disadvantage of FPGAs is their higher costs...

Nil_B wrote: ↑04 Oct 2023, 11:43 What advantages does the Profidrive profile offer ?​

There are a lot of benefits which PROFIdrive offers. Please have a look on https://www.profinet.com/profinet-expla ... profidrive for further information.

Is a separate certification required for the Profidrive profile in the device (in addition to the Profinet certification) ?​ Yes, a separate certification is required for the PROFIdrive profile. The PROFINET certification is a precondition for doing the PROFIdrive certification test. For the best p...