Profinet certification

[Cynthia_Wilson]

What is the entire procedure for obtaining a PROFINET certificate ?

[benja_m]

What is the entire procedure for obtaining a PROFINET certificate ?

1. In-house pretest your device with the Profinet test bundle
2. Find a testlab that performthe actual certification test and pass the tests
3. Once positive test report from testlab exists, apply for the certificate at PI central office

[Cutter12]

Are there any testing tools available to prepare the device for certification testing ?​

[benja_m]

Are there any testing tools available to prepare the device for certification testing ?​

The same tools used by the testlab are available for free to all PI members. You can find the bundle containing the tool here: https://www.profibus.com/download/profinet-test-bundle

[Jack0004]

What is the cost associated with obtaining a Profinet certificate ?​

[Francis]

What does the scope of a certification test entail at the official PI test lab ?​

[Cutter12]

What is the price for certification testing in the PI lab ?​

[Raik.Zachmann]

What is the cost associated with obtaining a Profinet certificate ?​

There are fees for the test at the PI Test Labs, which all have their individual price list. So you have to get in contact with them.
https://www.profibus.com/pi-organizatio ... test-labs/
In addition, fees for issuing the certificate at PI central business office (PNO) have to be considered.
Please have a look: https://www.profibus.com/download/charg ... fication-1

[Raik.Zachmann]

What is the price for certification testing in the PI lab ?​

The PI Test Labs have their individual price list. So you have to get in contact with them.
https://www.profibus.com/pi-organizatio ... test-labs/

[Raik.Zachmann]

What does the scope of a certification test entail at the official PI test lab ?​

The scope is based on the features your device supports according to its GSDML file.
Depending on the conformance class the mandatory features needs to be checked.
In case of supporting optional features, these are tested as well.
Besides the "normal" PROFINET RT tests, netload testing is performed and IRT (if supported) is checked.

In case of supported profiles (PROFIsafe, PROFIdrive/ENCODER and PROFIenergy) these profiles needs to be tested as well.

[No longer a member]

For Profinet certification test with TMDx654IDKEVM eval kit, what drivers and stack needed in TMDx654IDKEVM eval kite?

[benja_m]

For Profinet certification test with TMDx654IDKEVM eval kit, what drivers and stack needed in TMDx654IDKEVM eval kite?

all you need is contained in the Profinet certification tool. you simply need to "install" a delivered image to an SD card.

[Rajeesh N]

Hello All,

I would appreciate your thoughts on the following questions.
1) As a PI member, is a vendor allowed to sell an uncertified PROFINET IO Controller to their customer, provided the customer is explicitly informed about noncompliance and lack of certification? Let's assume that the product doesn't use any PI logos nor make any claims about PROFINET compatibility.

2) For an end user who is not well aware of PROFINET certification, what are the consequences of using an uncertified PROFINET IO controller in their automation solution?

Thank you.

[PNO-Wenzel]

Hello All,

I would appreciate your thoughts on the following questions.
1) As a PI member, is a vendor allowed to sell an uncertified PROFINET IO Controller to their customer, provided the customer is explicitly informed about noncompliance and lack of certification? Let's assume that the product doesn't use any PI logos nor make any claims about PROFINET compatibility.

2) For an end user who is not well aware of PROFINET certification, what are the consequences of using an uncertified PROFINET IO controller in their automation solution?

Thank you.

The general rule of PI states that certification of PROFINET products that are to be launched on the market is mandatory, regardless if a company is member or not. Before you launch your PROFINET product on the market, you must have it certified, regardless of whether a pre-certified module from a supplier is used. This does not effect the freedom of the vendors to launch any other products on the market.
However, if a manufacturer sells a product and the user assumes that it is a PROFINET-compatible product, but the manufacturer has NOT had the product tested for certification, the risk that it will not be interoperable with certified products from other manufacturers can be quite high. Since the PROFINET Controllers communicate with many PROFINET Devices and an incompatibility occurs, this will have a bad impact on the vendor's reputation.

[EMR55344]

Is the Profinet Certification of device include FDI Device Package?

[David]

Is the Profinet Certification of device include FDI Device Package?

PROFINET certification can be carried out without an FDI device package. However, certification of an FDI device package is only possible for a device with a valid PROFINET certificate. Both are separate certificates.